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	<link>http://nooc.voxtropolis.com/2006/05/03/what-happened/</link>
	<description>...no one of consequence</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 03:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nicolas Nelson</title>
		<link>http://nooc.voxtropolis.com/2006/05/03/what-happened/#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicolas Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2006 16:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nooc.voxtropolis.com/2006/05/03/what-happened/#comment-125</guid>
		<description>I want to join the nooc club too.  There's a great book exploring this idea by Louie Giglio, basically saying "&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1590522753/sr=8-12/qid=1147536705/ref=sr_1_12/002-4510770-8831225?%5Fencoding=UTF8" rel="nofollow"&gt;I am no one of consequence, but I know Who is.&lt;/a&gt;"  Deep stuff. 

But replying to the "so, who are you?" with "I am not" doesn't make sense in a social context unless you are ready to get into a profound and potentially bizarre conversation.  (those are fun sometimes, but it doesn't work as an offhand comment)  I like nooc better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to join the nooc club too.  There&#8217;s a great book exploring this idea by Louie Giglio, basically saying &#8220;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1590522753/sr=8-12/qid=1147536705/ref=sr_1_12/002-4510770-8831225?%5Fencoding=UTF8" rel="nofollow">I am no one of consequence, but I know Who is.</a>&#8221;  Deep stuff. </p>
<p>But replying to the &#8220;so, who are you?&#8221; with &#8220;I am not&#8221; doesn&#8217;t make sense in a social context unless you are ready to get into a profound and potentially bizarre conversation.  (those are fun sometimes, but it doesn&#8217;t work as an offhand comment)  I like nooc better.</p>
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		<title>By: Mixed Moss</title>
		<link>http://nooc.voxtropolis.com/2006/05/03/what-happened/#comment-124</link>
		<dc:creator>Mixed Moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 19:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nooc.voxtropolis.com/2006/05/03/what-happened/#comment-124</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Hah!&lt;/i&gt; I caught you. Americans aren't that dumb.

Wow, I actually quite like that. Can I be nooc too? I promise not to get a screen name that says it or anything, but reminding myself of it every once in a while would be a relief.

-Mel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Hah!</i> I caught you. Americans aren&#8217;t that dumb.</p>
<p>Wow, I actually quite like that. Can I be nooc too? I promise not to get a screen name that says it or anything, but reminding myself of it every once in a while would be a relief.</p>
<p>-Mel</p>
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		<title>By: nooc</title>
		<link>http://nooc.voxtropolis.com/2006/05/03/what-happened/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>nooc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 17:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nooc.voxtropolis.com/2006/05/03/what-happened/#comment-120</guid>
		<description>Nic!

I thought you were a tad quiet on the comments for awhile.  Glad you found me.

Yes my vox has intentionally kept a low profile.  I don't want to be opaque or inauthentic... just living in the tensions of being on staff at a church and wanting to feel free to post "on the edge" sometimes.  I toyed with the idea of a "hidden" and completely anonymous vox to feel even more freedom in this regard but haven't pursued it... much.

Anyhoo, I've been seeing some of your posts from time to time... house is coming along.  I'm tempted to come all the way to LA just to urban camp with you!

nooc

p.s. - I can't tell you that your first guess of nooc is correct because mixed moss is still trying to guess it.  Shhh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nic!</p>
<p>I thought you were a tad quiet on the comments for awhile.  Glad you found me.</p>
<p>Yes my vox has intentionally kept a low profile.  I don&#8217;t want to be opaque or inauthentic&#8230; just living in the tensions of being on staff at a church and wanting to feel free to post &#8220;on the edge&#8221; sometimes.  I toyed with the idea of a &#8220;hidden&#8221; and completely anonymous vox to feel even more freedom in this regard but haven&#8217;t pursued it&#8230; much.</p>
<p>Anyhoo, I&#8217;ve been seeing some of your posts from time to time&#8230; house is coming along.  I&#8217;m tempted to come all the way to LA just to urban camp with you!</p>
<p>nooc</p>
<p>p.s. - I can&#8217;t tell you that your first guess of nooc is correct because mixed moss is still trying to guess it.  Shhh.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicolas Nelson</title>
		<link>http://nooc.voxtropolis.com/2006/05/03/what-happened/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicolas Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 06:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nooc.voxtropolis.com/2006/05/03/what-happened/#comment-119</guid>
		<description>Hey there, GreggyD!  I found you!  
For the longest time I've had my bloglines subscribed to your old site, and nothing was happening-- I was worried about you.  Kidnapped by mystic warriors or something.  Then Alex tells me "oh, he posts pretty often actually," and alerts me when you're on the Vox page with a recent post.

Sheesh, do you always make it this hard for folks to find you?  ;-)  And in my experience, it's more like five or six failures per success, depending on how you look at things.  But that's probably just me.

Anyway, things are pretty crazy in LA right now; can't even begin to tell you, but at least my kids and my marriage are okay (as far as I can tell, haven't seen or heard from my wife in a while... that's part of the adventure I'm not telling you all about right now) and my career MIGHT be looking up.  Maybe.  Might have a house to live in someday too, but even that's in peril now.  I'll port all my blog content over to Voxtropolis somehow in the next few months, but right now it's cooling its heels at DiaryofanUrbanHouse.com.  Sign in first and hidden personal posts will magically appear.

Grace and strength to you, Greg!
In Him,
--Nic

(How about "no one of consequence", or "not out of college"?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there, GreggyD!  I found you!<br />
For the longest time I&#8217;ve had my bloglines subscribed to your old site, and nothing was happening&#8211; I was worried about you.  Kidnapped by mystic warriors or something.  Then Alex tells me &#8220;oh, he posts pretty often actually,&#8221; and alerts me when you&#8217;re on the Vox page with a recent post.</p>
<p>Sheesh, do you always make it this hard for folks to find you?  <img src='http://nooc.voxtropolis.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  And in my experience, it&#8217;s more like five or six failures per success, depending on how you look at things.  But that&#8217;s probably just me.</p>
<p>Anyway, things are pretty crazy in LA right now; can&#8217;t even begin to tell you, but at least my kids and my marriage are okay (as far as I can tell, haven&#8217;t seen or heard from my wife in a while&#8230; that&#8217;s part of the adventure I&#8217;m not telling you all about right now) and my career MIGHT be looking up.  Maybe.  Might have a house to live in someday too, but even that&#8217;s in peril now.  I&#8217;ll port all my blog content over to Voxtropolis somehow in the next few months, but right now it&#8217;s cooling its heels at DiaryofanUrbanHouse.com.  Sign in first and hidden personal posts will magically appear.</p>
<p>Grace and strength to you, Greg!<br />
In Him,<br />
&#8211;Nic</p>
<p>(How about &#8220;no one of consequence&#8221;, or &#8220;not out of college&#8221;?)</p>
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		<title>By: nooc</title>
		<link>http://nooc.voxtropolis.com/2006/05/03/what-happened/#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>nooc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 21:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nooc.voxtropolis.com/2006/05/03/what-happened/#comment-103</guid>
		<description>See?  Isn't that more fun than just telling you?

a hint:  sometimes it's a self-deprecating view of myself that I wallow in, sometimes it's a needed reminder to not think too highly of myself, sometimes it's a mysterious response and obvious deflection to someone asking "who are you?" that hints there is much more under the surface than is being revealed... so don't believe it for a second.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See?  Isn&#8217;t that more fun than just telling you?</p>
<p>a hint:  sometimes it&#8217;s a self-deprecating view of myself that I wallow in, sometimes it&#8217;s a needed reminder to not think too highly of myself, sometimes it&#8217;s a mysterious response and obvious deflection to someone asking &#8220;who are you?&#8221; that hints there is much more under the surface than is being revealed&#8230; so don&#8217;t believe it for a second.</p>
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		<title>By: mixedmoss</title>
		<link>http://nooc.voxtropolis.com/2006/05/03/what-happened/#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator>mixedmoss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 20:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nooc.voxtropolis.com/2006/05/03/what-happened/#comment-102</guid>
		<description>No One Over Christ-- You believe all this Christian stuff.

Not Overly Ostentatious Captain-- You're in charge of the ministry you run, but don't want to appear overly large, in hopes of encouraging input from those in the ministry.

Not On Oprah's Channel-- Like "not on my watch", only for fans of the show so extreme that the channel she's on is their entire subsistence.

Neat Operator's Open Cruise-- because you're such a smooth criminal that noone can stop you.

Nifty Option for Oxen Crap-- You've invented a really big pooper scooper, for the farmers in Canada who have slightly larger problems than the average city dog-walker.

New! Olive Oil in Cans!-- In an alternate universe, you write marketing materials for P&#38;G.

Next Oliver Opens a Cafe-- Your twin brother Oliver is opening a coffee shop based on ideas developed while launching Stir.

-Mel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No One Over Christ&#8211; You believe all this Christian stuff.</p>
<p>Not Overly Ostentatious Captain&#8211; You&#8217;re in charge of the ministry you run, but don&#8217;t want to appear overly large, in hopes of encouraging input from those in the ministry.</p>
<p>Not On Oprah&#8217;s Channel&#8211; Like &#8220;not on my watch&#8221;, only for fans of the show so extreme that the channel she&#8217;s on is their entire subsistence.</p>
<p>Neat Operator&#8217;s Open Cruise&#8211; because you&#8217;re such a smooth criminal that noone can stop you.</p>
<p>Nifty Option for Oxen Crap&#8211; You&#8217;ve invented a really big pooper scooper, for the farmers in Canada who have slightly larger problems than the average city dog-walker.</p>
<p>New! Olive Oil in Cans!&#8211; In an alternate universe, you write marketing materials for P&amp;G.</p>
<p>Next Oliver Opens a Cafe&#8211; Your twin brother Oliver is opening a coffee shop based on ideas developed while launching Stir.</p>
<p>-Mel</p>
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		<title>By: nooc</title>
		<link>http://nooc.voxtropolis.com/2006/05/03/what-happened/#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>nooc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 04:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nooc.voxtropolis.com/2006/05/03/what-happened/#comment-99</guid>
		<description>Thank you both...

It's both a blessing and a curse that you don't get to bask in either your successes or failures for very long in ministry... similar to any other job I guess... or school... or life....

I haven't fully digested this past Friday yet this COMING friday is sure breathing down my neck.  This time it's iteration number 2 of "Cafe of the Dead".  Very excited/nervous... had a great first one... really set the tempo... created some pretty big expectations for this next one... oops.

Mel - just letting you know that the next "soulspresso" happens in 1.5 weeks.  This is the event where we explore artistic creativity where I'd love to present one of your poems.  No pressure!  :)

as for nooc - it's an acronym.  I'll leave it at that in case you want to have fun figuring it out.  Kept Deena (obahsomah) busy for awhile.  I mention it some where else on this blog I think.

nooc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you both&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s both a blessing and a curse that you don&#8217;t get to bask in either your successes or failures for very long in ministry&#8230; similar to any other job I guess&#8230; or school&#8230; or life&#8230;.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t fully digested this past Friday yet this COMING friday is sure breathing down my neck.  This time it&#8217;s iteration number 2 of &#8220;Cafe of the Dead&#8221;.  Very excited/nervous&#8230; had a great first one&#8230; really set the tempo&#8230; created some pretty big expectations for this next one&#8230; oops.</p>
<p>Mel - just letting you know that the next &#8220;soulspresso&#8221; happens in 1.5 weeks.  This is the event where we explore artistic creativity where I&#8217;d love to present one of your poems.  No pressure!  <img src='http://nooc.voxtropolis.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>as for nooc - it&#8217;s an acronym.  I&#8217;ll leave it at that in case you want to have fun figuring it out.  Kept Deena (obahsomah) busy for awhile.  I mention it some where else on this blog I think.</p>
<p>nooc</p>
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		<title>By: onelife</title>
		<link>http://nooc.voxtropolis.com/2006/05/03/what-happened/#comment-98</link>
		<dc:creator>onelife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 00:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nooc.voxtropolis.com/2006/05/03/what-happened/#comment-98</guid>
		<description>Good stuff.  I totally hear you on the second point, i don't know how many times i've been personally disappointed by things like numbers of people.. but there's nothing that compares to doing what's on your heart, even when not many people show up.  Congrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff.  I totally hear you on the second point, i don&#8217;t know how many times i&#8217;ve been personally disappointed by things like numbers of people.. but there&#8217;s nothing that compares to doing what&#8217;s on your heart, even when not many people show up.  Congrats.</p>
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		<title>By: mixed moss</title>
		<link>http://nooc.voxtropolis.com/2006/05/03/what-happened/#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>mixed moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 23:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nooc.voxtropolis.com/2006/05/03/what-happened/#comment-97</guid>
		<description>Congratulations. You are in a good place. It doesn't seem good, but since when has the appearance of evil necessarily coincided with the actuality? &lt;i&gt;"I think servants of the enemy would seem fairer and feel fouler..."&lt;/i&gt;

I like a good solid failure at the beginning of something. It means that I can pick up and continue on with no expectations to fulfill, nothing left to lose. And then, with the pressure off, I can enjoy the journey.

Yeah, so what does "nooc" refer to? I've often wondered. Well, regardless, feel valued. Feel used. Because in a backwards way that is the total opposite of what takes place in human interactions, with God those two things go together. And they are beautifully demonstrated in &lt;b&gt;you&lt;/b&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations. You are in a good place. It doesn&#8217;t seem good, but since when has the appearance of evil necessarily coincided with the actuality? <i>&#8220;I think servants of the enemy would seem fairer and feel fouler&#8230;&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I like a good solid failure at the beginning of something. It means that I can pick up and continue on with no expectations to fulfill, nothing left to lose. And then, with the pressure off, I can enjoy the journey.</p>
<p>Yeah, so what does &#8220;nooc&#8221; refer to? I&#8217;ve often wondered. Well, regardless, feel valued. Feel used. Because in a backwards way that is the total opposite of what takes place in human interactions, with God those two things go together. And they are beautifully demonstrated in <b>you</b>.</p>
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